What is Infinity not doing?

[Z.inc]

What is Infinity not making that you would like to see? For example, civilians, dramatis personae, vehicles, local police? Maybe CB produces everything you need to play their officially released scenarios, but perhaps your imagination and gaming habits are larger than officially released scenarios.

[Magno]

A boardgame. I would love to see CB make an Infinity related board game.
Kind of how like FantasyFlightGames is expanding on the Android game to create a full universe of related games; Android, Infiltration and Netrunner (I know it's a relaunch of an old game, but its a fabulous game).

[valthonis]

I'd like to see official faction DLC for the new XCom PC game.

[Kitsune]

Civilians would be a good one.

[Puprednuht]

A boardgame. I would love to see CB make an Infinity related board game.

I would snatch that up so fast.

[Levitas]

I'd like to see...

• Novels, background books etc. I miss this after moving from 40k.
• Art book
• Board game (superb idea)

[Cervantes3773]

Hm... Novels, Art book(s), in-world books (a la Infantryman's Uplifting Primer), board game, card game (not collectible, not necessarily a deckbuilder), and perhaps display-level minis (e.g. 54mm Tomcat).

[Oreet]

So it sounds like what everyone is saying is that CB should do with Infinity what GW did/does with WH/WH40k???


*runs away before he gets beat up*

[Puprednuht]

So it sounds like what everyone is saying is that CB should do with Infinity what GW did/does with WH/WH40k???


*runs away before he gets beat up*

I think CB should do with Infinity what BETTER companies than GW did with GWs intellectual propperty.

Thank you very much FFG.

[Cervantes3773]

As if GW is the only company to have released additional products beyond their core line.

Oh, wait, Wizards of the Coast with MtG Novels; Privateer Press with non-mini games, RPG; TSR (then WotC) with D&D novels, games, movies; various video game companies with novels, movies, board games, toys, etc.

[Pierzasty]

Still waiting for a mention of any good additional products

[Cervantes3773]

Still waiting for a mention of any good additional products

Well, de gustibus non est disputandum.

The original Dragonlance trilogy was pretty good, as was the Cleric Quintet and the first two Drizzt trilogies (Icewind Dale, Dark Elf). Various Starwars spin-offs have been as good, or better, than the movies. But yes, a lot of genre fiction blows giant donkey...

...something.

[Oreet]

Personally, I love the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogy books. Especially since I've been playing in a nearly year-long Dark Heresy game.

[kidterminal]

Personally, I love the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogy books. Especially since I've been playing in a nearly year-long Dark Heresy game.

That's because they are actually written by good writers, not the donkey loving ones usually writing game fiction that Cervantes3773 mentioned above.

[Cervantes3773]

Personally, I love the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogy books. Especially since I've been playing in a nearly year-long Dark Heresy game.

Oh goodness, yes! Dan Abnett is their best writer, followed by Graham McNeill and William King. I gave the first Eisenhorn book to a friend and he came back a day later asking for the rest.

[Oreet]

Personally, I love the Eisenhorn and Ravenor trilogy books. Especially since I've been playing in a nearly year-long Dark Heresy game.

Oh goodness, yes! Dan Abnett is their best writer, followed by Graham McNeill and William King. I gave the first Eisenhorn book to a friend and he came back a day later asking for the rest.

And he's doing a new trilogy that centers around a Ravenor vs. Eisenhorn arc. First book came out in October.

[kidterminal]

CB does need to flesh out the Human Sphere with some novels or short story anthologies. That's a must IMO. When they do this they'll need to leave the donkey lovers out of it. Nothing downgrades a game faster than badly written game fiction.

[MarcoSkoll]

Dan Abnett is their best writer...

I am now legally empowered to kill all of you.

Abnett takes a horrendous number of liberties with the 40K fluff - there are so many things he's written where the canon explanations for them are basically "Er... well, that's a special case". He introduces major contradictions with established fluff that would break entire parts of the setting, usually for the sake of trivialities and side plots - and then usually comes around to contradicting his own interpretation, even within the same series.

He is catastrophically overrated.

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To actually contribute to the main subject, I'd love to have a concept art book, or at least access to good quality online copies of the concept art.

Good quality fiction would be nice too, as long as that aforementioned individual is not used as any kind of benchmark for "good quality".

[Cervantes3773]

Dan Abnett is their best writer...

I am now legally empowered to kill all of you.

Writing well and treating the fluff well are two distinct attributes.

He is their best writer, as in most pleasing prose, coherent story lines, believable characters, etc.
He does take liberties with the fluff and, as you say, some are pretty wild.

But if you think he handles the fluff poorly, please don't read C.S. Goto or Scanlon's treatment of the Heresy-era Dark Angels. Terrible to read and just.... out there.

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And he's doing a new trilogy that centers around a Ravenor vs. Eisenhorn arc. First book came out in October.

Pariah also has a focus on Bequin... it's on my "to read" shelf (or about second in line).

Anyway, I think the Violent Intermission would make a good board game - Bakunin v. Aleph, you could incorporate some aspects of Dune/Rex type games, with politics (asking for help from other factions), troops movements, and betrayal (Aleph had infiltrators in Bakunin). The Red Auction would make a hilariously morbid economic-based game. "Hmmm... yes, I'll pay $500 to have him... eliminated."

[MarcoSkoll]

Writing well and treating the fluff well are two distinct attributes.

True, but I do feel that separating the two is being somewhat semantic about the difference between what labelling someone the best Black Library writer strictly means and what it implies.

But if you think he handles the fluff poorly...

Oh, I know there are worse for maltreatment of the fluff. Abnett is however the one that usually gets my goat, mostly because his reputation amongst the community almost always overlooks that flaw in his work.

It's aggravating to see someone being lauded while they're also running roughshod over parts of the setting.

[Noirfatale]

ARRR - PEEE-- GEEEE!!!

seriously, I want a RPG right now.

I know it was supposed to be one in the begining and RPG dont have a big market but seriously...

Eclipse phase is close enough but still...

any good novel would be awesome too.

[Cervantes3773]

Fair enough. Consider then that I enjoy reading Abnett's non-40k/Fantasy work... and can't say the same for other BL writers.

Again, onto the main topic:
I think a lot of the Infinity fluff events provide big opportunities for boardgames. Antipode Wars, Commercial Conflicts, Aristeia!, YJ's oppressive political climate in which you compete with other subversives to see who can survive the longest...

[Pierzasty]

What Infinity isn't doing and I'd like:
- concept art gallery, including unreleased models, for conversions and sculpting
- artbook, especially from the artists illustrating the first 2 books
- the Exrah sectorial
- sane/consistent weapon size policy
- good-looking Wildcats
- updated and bug-free DT army builder

[Cilionelle]

I'd like an RPG. That would be fun. I hope and pray that we don't have to have a Blood-Bowl-esque game (Grind, DreadBall, etc) or a LCG/CCG/CMG thing. It's tired. If CB can make a minis game of the calibre of Infinity, they can come up with something original in the way of off-shoots.

[MarcoSkoll]

I hope and pray that we don't have to have a Blood-Bowl-esque game (Grind, DreadBall, etc)

Of course, such a thing already exists in the setting: Dog-Bowl.

[Cilionelle]

Yes, exists in universe. But not on the shelves of my LFGS... although I don't really have a LFGS... it's an hour away... but that's irrelevant!

[Cervantes3773]

Don't forget Aristeia!!

I'm ok with a sports game, provided it's not be a carbon copy of the other existing ones (BB, Grind, DB, etc). I doubt we'll see an LCG-esque game - that requires a lot more work than I think they would want to put into it. Maybe a Race for the Galaxy-esque game; card-based, but not deck-dependent.

[kidterminal]

Maybe a gladiator type sports fight game?

[iron panda]

I'd like to see an Infinity art book one day as well as a compilation of short stories. Nothing extravagant, really, just enough to satisfy players and attracting new ones. Back in the day, Battletech had a slim paperback book filled with short stories and artwork that got me into the game.

[Kaptajn Congoboy]

Although it sounds negative, I have so far not read any established-universe fiction book I would consider good after I reached adulthood. I have read some that just gets off the ground as ok pulp, and a lot of books that...might have done far better being sold as sanitary product.

I know I sound negative, but man there is a lot of bad writing out there in Black Library/D&D/Star Wars EU-land, and painfully little worth reading. I do not have high hopes for PP's new line either. There are serious problems tied to writing in "owned worlds":

http://www.vectormagazine.co.uk/article ... ticleID=42