by kidterminal » June 23rd, 2013, 7:25 pm
by Pierzasty » June 23rd, 2013, 7:36 pm
by kidterminal » June 23rd, 2013, 7:38 pm
Pierzasty wrote:Good for the hobby. Healthy competition is always good, and even if they don't overcome GW, I'd like to see them keep the giant on its toes.
(Yes, I'm aware it applies to Infinity as well. But CB has a much higher standard to beat )
by VisOne » June 23rd, 2013, 10:08 pm
by Arachas » June 23rd, 2013, 10:32 pm
by Pacific » June 23rd, 2013, 10:50 pm
by Magno » June 23rd, 2013, 11:22 pm
by valthonis » June 24th, 2013, 12:09 am
Magno wrote:Kind funny that GW has been making millions on copying other IP.
Everyone copies to an extent, but I find it bothersome that GW is trying to be the only one allowed that.
by Mob of Blondes » June 24th, 2013, 12:14 am
BoLS wrote:Copyright Claims
160 claims alleged against CHS
-GW won on 1/3 of the claims, including items such as CHS' Powerfists
-CHS won on 2/3 of the claims, including the use of the underlying shape and size of GW Shoulderpads.
General Trademark Claims
9 claims alleged against CHS
-CHS won all 9 claims, including either no infringement, or fair use of the GW trademarks on CHS' website.
Disputed Trademark Claims
21 disputed trademark claims alleged against CHS
CHS won 11 claims
GW won 10 claims
GW Trademarks ruled "Previously Used in Commerce" Claims
61 claims alleged against CHS
CHS won 35 claims
GW won 27
Notable Trends and Individual Products Under Dispute
CHS lost on some individual products including:
-Doomseer
-Dark Elf Arch Tortress
CHS won on some individual products including:
-Jetbike
-Super-heavy walker model
-Lizard Ogre
Damages Awarded:
CHS ordered to pay GW damages of $25,000 USD
by valthonis » June 24th, 2013, 1:27 am
by VisOne » June 24th, 2013, 1:38 am
by Lampyridae » June 24th, 2013, 8:30 am
by Magno » June 24th, 2013, 1:28 pm
by valthonis » June 24th, 2013, 2:17 pm
Magno wrote:When you are driven by your shareholders or are trying to appease your shareholders, your business is in trouble.
You should be focusing on satisfying your customers, expanding and strengthening your market.
by Mob of Blondes » June 24th, 2013, 7:07 pm
The shareholders who hold over 3% of the total ordinary share capital of Games Workshop Group PLC, are as follows:
- Code: Select all
Shareholder Number of shares Percentage
The Nomad Investment Partnership LP 4,341,141 13.7
Investec Asset Management Limited 3,087,765 9.7
Ruffer LLP 2,492,260 7.8
Tom Kirby 2,131,394 6.7
Phoenix Asset Management Partners Limited 1,865,218 5.9
FIL Limited 1,753,900 5.5
Artemis Investment Management LLP 1,620,001 5.1
Information correct at 21 June 2013
by kidterminal » June 24th, 2013, 8:10 pm
Mob of Blondes wrote:The list of big shareholders is public information by law, which add to 54.4%.The shareholders who hold over 3% of the total ordinary share capital of Games Workshop Group PLC, are as follows:
- Code: Select all
Shareholder Number of shares Percentage
The Nomad Investment Partnership LP 4,341,141 13.7
Investec Asset Management Limited 3,087,765 9.7
Ruffer LLP 2,492,260 7.8
Tom Kirby 2,131,394 6.7
Phoenix Asset Management Partners Limited 1,865,218 5.9
FIL Limited 1,753,900 5.5
Artemis Investment Management LLP 1,620,001 5.1
Information correct at 21 June 2013
Kirby is CEO and chairman, long ago before getting into games companies he was inspector of taxes. So one of the shareholders is in the place to make decissions. And the rumor is that he wants to retire rich in some years.
by valthonis » June 24th, 2013, 8:24 pm
by kidterminal » June 24th, 2013, 8:29 pm
valthonis wrote:Well if GW gets rid of bits you'll have to buy another whole box for the bits you want, at least that is my guess at their logic.
by valthonis » June 24th, 2013, 9:14 pm
kidterminal wrote:valthonis wrote:Well if GW gets rid of bits you'll have to buy another whole box for the bits you want, at least that is my guess at their logic.
Yes I think is similar to their logic behind making most new releases direct order through their web store.
by Pierzasty » June 25th, 2013, 2:24 am
- Code: Select all
Shareholder Number of shares Percentage
The Nomad Investment Partnership LP 4,341,141 13.7
by Mob of Blondes » June 25th, 2013, 2:59 am
by McNamara » June 25th, 2013, 12:32 pm
Pierzasty wrote:
- Code: Select all
Shareholder Number of shares Percentage
The Nomad Investment Partnership LP 4,341,141 13.7
Ah, Tunguska is involved. Speaks a lot about GW's downfall, then.
by Pacific » June 25th, 2013, 2:04 pm
valthonis wrote:Well if GW gets rid of bits you'll have to buy another whole box for the bits you want, at least that is my guess at their logic.
by kidterminal » June 25th, 2013, 5:23 pm
Pacific wrote:Hahah yes..valthonis wrote:Well if GW gets rid of bits you'll have to buy another whole box for the bits you want, at least that is my guess at their logic.
I wonder if they are trying to do away with the idea of converting and modelling entirely, to promote the buyer just getting a box set, painting it (or preferably not) and then buying the next one. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 'spoilt little brat' reaction to the CHS affair was to make a load of future releases either all Finecast or single piece plastics that are almost impossible to convert, "that'l' show them" to the 0.4% of their revenue stream that converts their models using 3rd party parts.
by Pierzasty » June 25th, 2013, 7:27 pm
Pacific wrote:single piece plastics that are almost impossible to convert
by Pacific » June 25th, 2013, 10:17 pm
by Caius » June 26th, 2013, 12:51 pm
Pacific wrote:Sad thing (and even this is going back some years) - a kid who saw my Pre-Heresy World Eaters army "So what are those, White Scars?" "No", I replied, "World Eaters". He asked why they were white, and I explained because that was their old scheme during pre-heresy. And the punch-line "why don't you just paint them like the ones on the box?".. It's a really sad state of affairs..
by Section9 » July 1st, 2013, 9:47 pm
Magno wrote:GW has shareholders and their shareholders demand profits.
Ok, but who are their shareholders?
I can't imagine GW is a hot ticket that the general public goes after. Most people haven't heard of Games Workshop.
Mutual Funds probably aren't chomping at the bit to place GW on their portfolio.
I think a good chunk of the shareholders are probably GW players themselves. There have been a few initiatives in the past where the player base tried to rally and protest against GW by buying up all their shares.
When you are driven by your shareholders or are trying to appease your shareholders, your business is in trouble.
You should be focusing on satisfying your customers, expanding and strengthening your market.