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Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by H1ghlander » November 17th, 2014, 11:05 pm

Because I am a new player, I don't have any of the rule or arts books that contain any of the Infinity background fluff. What are the flora and seasons like on Dawn? I suspect that there is an abundance or mountainous and jungle regions, but I can't find any information on the flora colour, as well as any colour changes with seasons.

I know what a temperate climate looks like on Earth, but Dawn is another planet, and I don't know if the plants are red and purple instead of green and brown.

The two main colour scheme I am considering is a spring/summer boreal forest scheme with greens, browns, and a little red, or an autumn scheme with browns, yellows, and oranges. I want to make sure my scheme fits for an Aridanan force fighting on Dawn.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Scorch » November 17th, 2014, 11:18 pm

H1ghlander wrote:Because I am a new player, I don't have any of the rule or arts books that contain any of the Infinity background fluff. What are the flora and seasons like on Dawn? I suspect that there is an abundance or mountainous and jungle regions, but I can't find any information on the flora colour, as well as any colour changes with seasons.

I know what a temperate climate looks like on Earth, but Dawn is another planet, and I don't know if the plants are red and purple instead of green and brown.

The two main colour scheme I am considering is a spring/summer boreal forest scheme with greens, browns, and a little red, or an autumn scheme with browns, yellows, and oranges. I want to make sure my scheme fits for an Aridanan force fighting on Dawn.

Mountainous, forests. No jungles. It's like rural Europe, Russia and Canada. Climate doesn't allow for jungle. Most pictures show snow, forests with lots of pine trees, but no seasons.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Errhile » November 18th, 2014, 6:14 am

I beg to differ, Scorch. It is a planet. And one roughly Earth-sized, so it has sensible gravity and atmospheric pressure and so on. It should have different climate zones. From arctic towards the polar capes to tropical closer to equator (or I should have said - colder and warmer).
Please note that Paradiso simply has most of it's habitable landmass in the equatorial zone. So does Bouraq (which is additionally known to be a little too close to it's sun). Svalarheima is a bit too far, and has little land in equatorial zone...
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That being said, available graphics of Ariadna suggest very Earthly color palette of browns and greens, and climate - as Scorch says - more like in Europe.

Also, design decision was apparently to make Ariadna "familiar" to modern military buffs. Any modern or historical camo pattern should be OK for the Ariadnan minis. There are forrests (temperate climate forrests, cold climate, tundra-like forrests, and probably tropical rainforrests too) in Ariadna, but there are also mountains, glaciers, snow, steppes, grasslands and deserts (both stone and sand).
I mean, there isn't a reason for them to not exist! :)
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Hordshyrd » November 18th, 2014, 9:20 am

Errhile, did you just say most of Bouraq's habitable landmass is in the equatorial zone?, tut tut you should know better. True the polar regions have lower %landmass versus ocean but their far more climatically suitable for human habitation. The equatorial regions are still far beyond easy habitation, although people live their anyway, even if they have larger areas of land mass.

If I recall correctly the majority of human colonization on Dawn is around the equatorial region. They make claims of large forested regions, covering most of the planet even. But given that the equator is climatically similar to Europe, which is well north of the equator, it would stand to reason that the more polar/artic regions get very very cold, and probably have some fairly large streaches of tundra. I also seem to recall their being mentions of plain tribes and forest tribes of Antipodes that fight separately or together against the humans, so their is definitely more than just the forests and the mountains.

Dawn should have a cycle of seasons as well, a good point for this is the small amounts of snow shown on some of the official ariadnan bases, this shows that there is snowfall but that it must not be constant otherwise dawn would simply be an ice world. So there must be some kind of hot-cold seasonal cycle, or at least a rainy-dry season.

Either way if you're going to make a traditionally ariadnan board I would suggest going for a boreal forest look. Mixture of coniferous and deciduous trees, probably more pines and things of that like than otherwise, and feel free to make them look either just like earth or a bit weird, it is an alien world after all.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by chromedog » November 18th, 2014, 9:44 am

We simply don't know enough about the axial tilt of Dawn to determine the vagaries of its seasons (it's the axial tilt that gives it the "wobble" in the solar orbit. We're 23 or so degrees of vertical (which would put us on perpendicular to the sun's plane) and change the 'seasons' quite substantially.
It is this, more than anything else, that determines the seasons on planet dirt. All we know about Dawn is that it is roughly earthlike in terms of mass, gravity and I will assume core magnetics. Although precisely what effect unobtanium teseum has on this we don't know.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Scorch » November 18th, 2014, 9:48 am

The maps of Dawn don't show desert, or jungles. This could happen due to the planet being slightly further from its sun than earth. A temperature drop of 5 degrees Celsius, would already have significant effects on everything around here. Allowing rain forests to perish, and entire regions to become tundras. The last ice age also was a few degrees colder, and the glaciers came down to Utrecht in the Netherlands. Coordinates: 52°5′N 5°7′E

Seasons on earth are only happening due to its equator not being in line with the equator from the sun. In other words: earth is tilted slightly, which allow regions to 'wobble' in and out of solar activity. If the planet is in line with the plane of the sun, seasons wouldn't occur. You'd have climate changes though, due to some regions being relatively closer to the sun, but there would be nothing that would differentiate one month as winter and another as summer. Even rain/dry seasons are subject to the 'wobbling' as high and low pressure fronts are subject to heat among other things.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by H1ghlander » November 18th, 2014, 10:17 pm

Scorch wrote:Mountainous, forests. No jungles. It's like rural Europe, Russia and Canada. Climate doesn't allow for jungle. Most pictures show snow, forests with lots of pine trees, but no seasons.


Ah, I had assumed jungle because Caledonian Volunteers have Multiterrain (mountain and Jungle), but forest makes similar sense. Rural Canada makes sense to me. I've driven through it.

@everyone: Thanks very much for the input.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Alphast » November 19th, 2014, 2:25 pm

For ideas about a planet with no wobbling, no rotation either and thus no day and night and no seasons, read "Proxima" by Stephen Baxter. The only "seasons" are linked to irregular solar activity and tectonic activity. So a winter can be 2 years or 1 month or a century. Night and day are in fact the two faces of the planet. This impacts of course geography and hydrography and biology and so on.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Lupus » November 26th, 2014, 4:59 pm

Has to be Jungle due to the Skills of the Antipodes (Jungle terrain).

Otherwise why give them that skill? It's their Native soil so to speak. Unless CB equates Jungle and Woodlands to be of the same ilk terrain wise.
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Re: Flora, Geography, and Seasons on Dawn?

by Errhile » November 26th, 2014, 7:04 pm

Actually, they do...
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