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Stealth + D-Charge

PostPosted: November 13th, 2015, 11:22 pm
by VooDooTech
Hello,


I have seens many posts that a unit with Stealth + CH:Cammo and D-Charges can detonate them without any ARO from the enemy.

How is this posisble?

The rules state:

Stealth:
"However, if the second Short Skill of the Order is any non-Movement Skill, then those enemies can react normally in ARO."
"If the Movement of the trooper with Stealth ends in base to base contact with an enemy and declares any non-Movement Short Skill, then the enemy can only declare CC Attack, Dodge, Reset, or those Skills that can be used in Engaged state."

Camuflaged Cancelation : "The Camouflaged trooper enters base to base contact with a model"

D-Charge:
Is a: SHORT SKILL, ARO, CC Attack + "Planting a D-Charge on an enemy figure. The user, in base to base contact, spends one Short Skill of an Order or ARO, and passes a Face to Face Roll using his CC."

You need 1,5 Order to make this action. Get to the enemy, place D-Charge and Detonate.
You enter BtB youre Cammo is gone. The D-Charge place is and Attack so the enemy can respond.
So how is it possible?



For any explanation thank you.

Re: Stealth + D-Charge

PostPosted: November 13th, 2015, 11:35 pm
by Claudius Sol
Yeah... So placing a D-Charge as well as Detonating a D-Charge are both non-camo friendly actions.

Walking into base contact with an enemy will reveal the camouflage marker and generate an ARO.

Placing a D-Charge will reveal the camouflage marker and generate an ARO.

Detonating a D-Charge will reveal the camouflage marker and generate an ARO.

Re: Stealth + D-Charge

PostPosted: November 13th, 2015, 11:41 pm
by VooDooTech
Is this action possible? To not generate a D-Charge ARO?

Or was this a thing in N2?

Re: Stealth + D-Charge

PostPosted: November 14th, 2015, 12:08 am
by CoveredInFish
It doesnt work and I dont think it worked in N2. Even if I consider detonating the D-Charge with an out-of-LoF Engineer I still cant deliver the D-Charge without getting at least 1 ARO. Where did you see those posts? (not mocking, it would be interesting to see it to find out what this is about) As Claudius Sol said there are many clear reasons why this tactic doesnt work.

Re: Stealth + D-Charge

PostPosted: November 14th, 2015, 12:12 am
by VooDooTech
This was posted on another forum but it is not in english.

I know it is not working but wanted to be sure :)

Thank you for the information!

P.S. Would be cool if this would be possible.