(Beginner) Have you any hints for me?

[Shadow Warrior]

Hi guys,
I'm starting to play Infinity ( ) and wanna buy something. Firstly I'll concentrate on Nomads (Correggidor/Tugunska oriented) since I like them more. Is this a good start?

-Operation Icestorm (I really like all sculpts and plan to play both factions) [Vanilla/Correggidor/Tugunska/Neoterra/Svalarheima?])
-Corregidor Starter (I plan to play Correggidor sectorial)
-Wildcat with spitfire (To expand wildcat's link team and to have a specific weapon)
-Senor Massacre (I really like the mini, his bg, and everything about his kit! With the revamp of grenades and shotgun I suppose him to get stronger than he is in 2nd edition)
-Hellcat with boarding shotgun (The idea of the drop troop that burst people with shotgun excite me)

Would you change something for something else? (I don't wanna get over this budget)

Excluded:
-Iguana and Geckos (they are just wonderful but they costs and I don't think is a good idea starting with them)
-Intruder with sniper rifle (I really like the mini and the idea of the badass sniper but it would be an overkill with the corregidor starter)
-Interventors (I can proxy them as masaai hunters\supports since I don't like them or play them as real interventors for both vanilla and tugunska, but maybe it's soon for the latter)
-Support Pack (I would prefer interventors as proxy of them [i hate clockmaker!!!]
-Tomcats/Carlota & Moriarty (I read about them in tactica...seems like they are much specialized and occasional to make a good use of them)
-Hellcats HMG/Hacker (i like minis but I don't think they are a priority)
-Vortex SpecOps (the mini is cool but I don't even understand how he works )
-Alguacil Vortex Lupe (I like the kit but can't make best use of it as a novice)
-Remotes (Maybe it's better to choose them once I played game and learnt something since minis aren't really the coolest in my mind)
-McMurrogh (i don't like the idea of having this scottish cat in my army )

(waiting for new sculpts: grenzers, securitate, mobile brigada, spektr, alguaciles, szalamandra)

[Errhile]

I'd give a hold to the Senor Massacre and Hellcat Shotgunner, too.

You'll have a lot of models to paint anyway, and enough to get your feet wet. 14 Nomad models, that's a lot.

I'm not sold on Senor Massacre in 3ed - untill I see all the rules for him. In 2ed.. well, if you call Tomcats "overspecialised" and "highly situational", you've apparently missed the resume on this guy! But don't take my words for granted, test him with a proxy a few times (you'll have enough models to proxy anyway).
As for Hellcat, in the Corregidor Starter you'll get another Hellcat (Combi+Light Shotgun) who can serve as a proxy for a moment.

Also, take a look at the PanO to supplement your Operation: Icestorm box, too! I guess you'll easily make another 14 models...

[WiseKensai]

I'm pretty new to the game too so I thought I'd give my perspective. I agree with Errhile's comments about waiting on getting Senor Massacre and the BS Hellcat. I definitely got a little over-excited when getting into Infinity and have a lot of unpainted, unassembled models glaring at me from inside their little baggies. The Spitfire Wildcat was the first model I assembled/painted though, so I can't rightly suggest you not get him.

Operation: Icestorm + the Corregidor starter pack will more than tide you over for awhile, depending on what points level you're planning on playing at. Proxying is for better or worse a part of the game in Infinity. Some troop profiles simply don't exist as models, and as I'm learning, each troop has its use and place on the battlefield so you'll eventually want to try them all.

In 2ed.. well, if you call Tomcats "overspecialised" and "highly situational", you've apparently missed the resume on this guy! But don't take my words for granted, test him with a proxy a few times (you'll have enough models to proxy anyway).

Tomcats have saved my bacon so many times. I definitely second Errhile's suggestion to proxy a Tomcat of some sort. My personal favorites are the Engineer and E/Mitter profiles. The engineer comes with a flamethrower and D-Charges, which means he either blows a hole in a wall to get where he needs to go, or just climbs right over it with Climbing+ then roasts the enemy to a crisp. With the E/Mitter you lose the flamethrower and D-Charges, but you can get mines just about wherever you need them quick, thanks to AD2 and Climbing+. A savvy opponent will try to lock down the board edges, but there are usually some dirty Nomad tricks you can play. Definitely give them a shot! I think you'll be impressed with their flexibility and general usefulness.

As for shotgunning stuff with an AD3 Hellcat, I've done it and it's as awesome as you think it is when it works, especially with the new N3 ranges. Just be careful when using AD3. I've had my Hellcats scatter right into a ball of angry Ariandnans with chain rifles and DEPs. It wasn't pretty, and there goes an order and 20 some points + any SWC you spent. Remember, you can always walk them on with AD2, no need to risk a PH roll unless you absolutely have to be right there. Even if you land behind someone, if it was in their ZoC they can still turn around, so you don't get an uncontested roll against them when you spend your next order to fill them full of futuristic buckshot.

[Shadow Warrior]

Thx for opinions!
Sry for poor english, not my mother language.
Anyway this is how I should modify the list in your opinion?
Consider that I don't really like to prox everything!

-Operation Icestorm
-Corregidor Starter
-Wildcat with spitfire
-Tomcats

Regarding PanO I think I'll concentrate just on Nomads for budget reason.
I don't like old fashioned sculpts (PanO is full of them!) so I'll wait a little more. In september should come out new fusiliers (specialists) and I recently saw Squalo artwork.
Maybe I'm too optimistic but I bet that soon more Orc troops, Nisses (as well as grenzers/mobile brigada) will come out and then I'll take them. Consider that new digital 3D modelling tool should accelerate the process of production of similar units.

[WiseKensai]

I don't recall when they're releasing Icestorm, but the other stuff on your list is available now. This is just a sample list that you could build at 150 pts, with the understanding that you don't want to proxy things if you can avoid it:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 7 models
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Wildcat Lieutenant (19|0)
Wildcat N2 (20|0)
Wildcat LFT (19|0)
Wildcat Spitfire (25|1.5)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Hellcat HMG (29|1.5)
Tomcat Doctor+zond (28|0)
Zondcat
________________________________________________________

150/150 points | 3/3 swc
open with Aleph Toolbox : http://goo.gl/jfzGqi


The only proxy is the Alguacil hacker as a regular Algaucil. 150 pts isn't the best place to be, especially if your primary order source are expensive Wildcats. Again, this assumes you'll get all the other stuff before Icestorm hits.

Edit: Whoops. In addition to the Alguacil, the Hellcat is also a proxy. Still, both are the correct troop type and both are singleton models of that troop type.

Still, a 4-man Wildcat link is nothing to sneeze at. I'd rather see a cheaper Algaucil link so you can get your order count closer to 10, especially with two AD troops. For your first game, I might consider starting the HMG Hellcat or the Tomcat on the board, just to make sure you have that order.

It's not an ideal list, and suffers from a lot of the mistakes I was making early on. Tomcats and other AD/specialist troops really start to shine when you have the full order pool to shuffle them around on the board and get stuff done. At only 7 orders, with up to 2 starting off board, I think you'll feel a bit constrained. The folks on this forum have offered me a bunch of good advice on this very subject in another thread here: http://www.data-sphere.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=2184

Once you get your hands on Icestorm, things will get better as you'll have more options. It might be worth waiting for Icestorm and starting off with Vanilla Nomads, as suggested by folks in the other thread. I got a little frustrated trying to figure out link teams, as I started playing Corregidor right away. Hope this is helpful.

[Errhile]

first, don't be sorry for your English. It isn't the primary language for a good number of the forumites. So you just do your best to write in a way we colud understeand, and we do our best to understeand you.
If we can read what Maru writes (granted, it ain't easy!), you'll do fine

As for the list - keep inmind that in Infinity, there isn't a single perfect list like it often is in some other games. As WiseKensai said, every model has its uses - and for some types of list or scenario, is just the thing you'll need. With Icestorm, Corregidor starter and a blister or three you already have enough models to start, and enough models to fill your painting table for quite a while.

And this is a fine point to begin from. You don't need to spend more money right now - get these models, assemble them and start painting. Also - start playing, for there's no better advice than your own experience.
Once you get some games under your belt, you'll have a good idea for what you want next.

Also, as it was already said - I get that you don't like to proxy, but in Ifinity, it is the way of living. There are many profiles that don't have miniatures, and some of them never will (all Forward Observers, for example, and all Paramedics) - so you either convert them from other models, or proxy them, typically with vanilla loadouts from the same unit.
No Infinity player in the world - including refrees at official tournament anywhere - should even raise a brow should you want to use the Corregidor Starter's Hellcat (nominally armed with Combi + Light Shotgun) as a Hellcat Lt, ADHL Hellcat (there was an old sculpt of this loadout, but it was discontinued earlier this year), Hellcat Paramedic (there never was a model) or Hellcat Sniper (again, no model ever existed, IIRC). She could pass as a Hacker Hellcat or Boarding Shotgun Hellcat, though a very strict refree could object that, since there are such models already, but in a friendly game it shouldn't be an issue. Fielding her as HMG Hellcat would be also OK in a friendly game - and there aren't any more Hellcat profiles

Oh, and she could, of course, pass up as a Tomcat, should you need that covered.

So, think positively and give the game some playing time. Belive me, after a few years of playing Corregidor I still have some models left I haven't yet purchased!

[Shadow Warrior]

Again, this assumes you'll get all the other stuff before Icestorm hits.

No I won't. All will come with an order so there is no hurry.

Once you get your hands on Icestorm, things will get better as you'll have more options. It might be worth waiting for Icestorm and starting off with Vanilla Nomads, as suggested by folks in the other thread. I got a little frustrated trying to figure out link teams, as I started playing Corregidor right away. Hope this is helpful.

In fact is was I planned to do. I was reading just yesterday about coordinated commands (I expected Vanilla to be more straightforward!)

Also, as it was already said - I get that you don't like to proxy, but in Ifinity, it is the way of living. There are many profiles that don't have miniatures, and some of them never will (all Forward Observers, for example, and all Paramedics) - so you either convert them from other models, or proxy them, typically with vanilla loadouts from the same unit.

OK. Got it!

Today is the day and I'm still not decided and I've to order things
I just want my squad to run some synergies! Not a link team but a team that can manage the board

OPERATION ICESTORM

CORREGIDOR STARTER

WILDCAT WITH SPITFIRE

TOMCATS


What about these alternatives? (is it right what I wrote about them?):
Intruder with Sniper Rifle? (an overkill miniature with Corregidor starter set?)

Carlota & Moriarty? (I don't like her for helmet and bad face sculpt but her zondcat is cooler and she is just one whereas Tomcats are 4 [overkill?])

Interventors? (I still don't know how hacking works: protect your TAGS and HI while blocking their? Controlling remotes?)

T.A.Gs? (I've read that Geckos are good when helped by an Hacker because they got no hacking defensive system - Iguana is more straightforward. Should I give renounce to Corregidor Starter/Tomcats and Wildcat to afford one of these boxes?)



Otherwise I can take some Neoterra Bolts (still can't get both boxes without giving up the rest!)




P.S: is it possible to deploy AD troops from begin taking their orders?

[Arachas]

I've been playing Nomads/Corregidor for a while now and I'd like to suggest a different route.

Getting Icestorm is a good idea, no problems there. What I would hold off on is the Corregidor starter. I feel its name is unjustified. It's a good kit to round out your force, but IMHO NOT a good starter kit.

You see, Wildcats are hard to use at first. They cost twice as much as Alguaciles, but die almost as easily. You need a bit of experience to be able to use them right: I think my first 10 games with Wild Cats ended up with them doing nothing but dieing, because of bad positioning and lack of insight.

As such I recommend the following: start playing VANILLA NOMADS, do NOT start with a sectorial. I know a sectorial sounds nice and tidy at first, but I feel link teams are an advanced rule that detract from your initial Infinity experience.

Go get Icestorm and a Tomcat, as suggested. I like the Wildcat Spitfire, perhaps do get that one. That really should give you a good start.

After that, I would look into adding the Interventors (if you've got Tunguska plans, you need these! Plus... AWESOME models) and then the Iguana. If you don't buy the Corregidor starter and that Hellcat, you can most likely afford it. You could also ask Cho-Konnit to split a Gecko box for you, so you can buy just one - a little more affordable.

That sounds like a fun list. If you want to go Corregidor after that, wait for the Alguaciles SWC box which is bound to pop up soon. Get the Alguacile Hacker from the starter from Cho and you'll be fully equipped to start Corregidor with an Alguacile link, which IMHO is a lot better for beginners (half the cost of the Wildcats, so way more forgivable).

Hope that helps.

[csjarrat]

I also vote for holding back on going purely corregidor.
Its not a bad sectoral, but I think you trade off so much of the power of Nomads just to have a link team that it isn't particularly worth it right at this point in your gaming career.
I'd personally vote for getting a couple of Zero models. They're incredibly useful, given that they can lay down mines, be specialists (for completing objectives in missions) and are infiltrators that start camouflaged very near the objectives (saving your precious orders for the big guns)
After this, you'll need a couple of big guns, so the wildcat with spitfire/intruder with sniper rifle/moira with HMG/riot grrl with spitfire are all decent options depending on how you want to play.
Tomcats are also really damn handy, so i'd throw my vote in on getting one. the ability to bring on a doc/engineer right near objectives is brilliant and the flamethrower is a big help too.

[Shadow Warrior]

I've been playing Nomads/Corregidor for a while now and I'd like to suggest a different route.

Getting Icestorm is a good idea, no problems there. What I would hold off on is the Corregidor starter. I feel its name is unjustified. It's a good kit to round out your force, but IMHO NOT a good starter kit.

You see, Wildcats are hard to use at first. They cost twice as much as Alguaciles, but die almost as easily. You need a bit of experience to be able to use them right: I think my first 10 games with Wild Cats ended up with them doing nothing but dieing, because of bad positioning and lack of insight.

As such I recommend the following: start playing VANILLA NOMADS, do NOT start with a sectorial. I know a sectorial sounds nice and tidy at first, but I feel link teams are an advanced rule that detract from your initial Infinity experience.

Go get Icestorm and a Tomcat, as suggested. I like the Wildcat Spitfire, perhaps do get that one. That really should give you a good start.

After that, I would look into adding the Interventors (if you've got Tunguska plans, you need these! Plus... AWESOME models) and then the Iguana. If you don't buy the Corregidor starter and that Hellcat, you can most likely afford it. You could also ask Cho-Konnit to split a Gecko box for you, so you can buy just one - a little more affordable.

That sounds like a fun list. If you want to go Corregidor after that, wait for the Alguaciles SWC box which is bound to pop up soon. Get the Alguacile Hacker from the starter from Cho and you'll be fully equipped to start Corregidor with an Alguacile link, which IMHO is a lot better for beginners (half the cost of the Wildcats, so way more forgivable).

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the advice!
You know... I was just thinking about how the starter should have helped me. It really doesn't!
I'll definitely start vanilla since with icestorm it's easier. I'll take Corregidor Starter after.
I appreciate the idea I've been given about taking split units but I won't since I know that if not now I'll buy for sure the full set of both Gecko and Corregidor (maybe it should be useful to take spare heads/moriarty). I'll just delay it.
Regarding Alguacile Hacker, if I run vanilla I can still go for Interventor or use the exclusive mini from Icestorm as an hacker. She should be a good proxy!
You all talk about Tomcats as one but they are sold in group of 3+zondcat. Am I wrong?
Considered what we've written since now, Hellcat with Shotgun and Senor Massacre are still a bad choice?

for csjarrat:
When I was submitting this post your post appeared. Well...
Thx for upvoting others opinion.
The bad thing is that I want to completely avoid getting into Bakunin (one of their best come out with Icestorm so...) because I really hate most of their models! Zeros are cool but not enough to justify the rest of Bakunin. At least for me! This is why I insisted on Corregidor Starter.
Maybe I'll get Intruder with Sniper Rifle.

[Scorch]

for csjarrat:
When I was submitting this post your post appeared. Well...
Thx for upvoting others opinion.
The bad thing is that I want to completely avoid getting into Bakunin (one of their best come out with Icestorm so...) because I really hate most of their models! Zeros are cool but not enough to justify the rest of Bakunin. At least for me! This is why I insisted on Corregidor Starter.
Maybe I'll get Intruder with Sniper Rifle.

I share your dislike for most of the Bakunin range. Still, Zeroes, Prowlers and Sin-Eaters are bad-ass statwise and I actually own a couple of those models. Besides those models, I think Bakunin isn't the right sectorial for me! haha! I really advise on some of them if you go Vanilla.

[csjarrat]

Yeah, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but they are so cheap and so useful that i'd urge you to at least take a look at the "hacker" one with the mines in his other hand. its a much newer model than the crouching ones and looks really good alongside the newer stuff too. it makes for a great minelayer/forward observer option and is invaluable in ITS missions.
If you're dead against it still, then take a look at the spektr hacker model. again its a TO camo infiltrator who can be a specialist (observer/hacker) who is perfect for taking objectives and winning you games

[Shadow Warrior]

I share your dislike for most of the Bakunin range. Still, Zeroes, Prowlers and Sin-Eaters are bad-ass statwise and I actually own a couple of those models. Besides those models, I think Bakunin isn't the right sectorial for me! haha! I really advise on some of them if you go Vanilla.

I'll probably do the same. I don't wanna feel forced to buy something I don't like! Even because minis are expensive.
You are right on the three you wrote about... but the rest is really... meh
So at the end of the day what do I go for?

[Scorch]

I started with a Lunokhod, a zero, and a starter of Corregidor. I second Arachas points though: wildcat = difficult unit to get right. But I wouldn't advice on splitting boxes. With O:I you have some good units, add Interventors and a couple of zeroes/prowlers and you're done.

[WiseKensai]

The bad thing is that I want to completely avoid getting into Bakunin (one of their best come out with Icestorm so...) because I really hate most of their models! Zeros are cool but not enough to justify the rest of Bakunin. At least for me! This is why I insisted on Corregidor Starter.
Maybe I'll get Intruder with Sniper Rifle.

I felt much the same way. I had the hardest time choosing what faction to start playing Infinity with. A friend of mine convinced a group of us to dive in together, and for some it was easy:

• "HOLY MOLY I can get bugs??? I'm playing Combined!"
• "What is that crazy power armor satyr thing? Tohaa it is!"
• "... ... I think the Caledonian LGL volunteer sculpt speaks for itself."

I kept coming back to Nomads because I liked what I was hearing about them being good at hacking, and I liked the idea of having a different way to apply pressure to the enemy, but the Bakunin stuff really turned me off. Like you, I thought Zeros were cool, but Moiras, the Pupniks, Morlocks, etc... meh. I also thought the Daktari catgirl model was pretty silly.

The Corregidor models were so awesome in comparison! All of these hard-as-nails special forces/specialist troops with full-face masks. I liked the fluff too! Hellcats dropping from the sky, Wildcats breaching and clearing their way through the corridors/rooms of a spaceship, and Tomcats being in the right place at the right time with the right tool. Plus then I can emblazon the side of any dropship I might eventually get with "Kitteh Attack Squad!"

Now that I've got a bunch of Corregidor, some of which is actually painted, and a few games with them under my belt, I'm feeling a bit constrained by the sectorial. There are things CJC does very well, but I keep opening an empty vanilla Nomads list in Aleph Toolbox and playing around with all the toys I can't get. There's no shame in disliking models and not wanting to field them, but there's also nothing saying you can't play a mostly-Corregidor vanilla Nomads list, incorporating the Bakunin/Tunguska models you do like. Yes, you lose link teams and your AVA might get a little weird, but at from what I can tell by looking at my theorycrafting you get a lot of capability/flexibility in return.

As for the Intruder sniper, he is pretty awesome looking, but I think most people agree that he's pretty overpriced in points/SWC. I'm slowly arriving at the same conclusion. Cutting off that stupid rock was also annoying. As an ARO troop in CJC, I've been pretty happy with my Reaktion Zond so far, but there are better options in vanilla, like the Sin Eater + HMG.

You all talk about Tomcats as one but they are sold in group of 3+zondcat. Am I wrong?
Considered what we've written since now, Hellcat with Shotgun and Senor Massacre are still a bad choice?

IIRC, they come in the following packs:

• Doctor, Engineer, DEP, and Zondcat
• Doctor and Zondcat
• Carlota and Moriarty

The first one will definitely get you pretty much everything you need. If you feel the absolute need to have two Zondcats because "NYAH! Catgirl robot!" then you can pick up the second pack as well. Just be aware that the doctor sculpts are the same. I... may or may not have all three packs and might be currently working on a way to differentiate the doctor models.

Carlota's not bad either. Face sculpt aside (I actually don't mind it too much), getting a 0 SWC ADHL attached to an AD2 body with D-Charges and engineer training for only 30 pts... that's pretty good. I'm having trouble fitting her in lower points games, but when I do take her I haven't been disappointed.

In N2 right now, the shotgun is a little weird. It gets much better with the N3 ranges, but there are a ton of changes coming that make it very difficult to predict the effectiveness of a boarding shotgun-toting Hellcat. If you're going to be getting the Tomcat box, that's already 3 AD troops. You probably don't need more than that to get started. Plus, the Hellcats are a little slower at 4-2, don't come with Climbing+, and offer the same BS of 12. I find myself taking Tomcats much more often than Hellcats. When I take Hellcats it's usually the ADHL profile or the HMG profile, especially because the ADHL comes with a shotgun too. I treat them primarily as one-shot sacrificial units to "get rid of that thing," e.g. dropping an ADHL Hellcat behind a Traktor Mul and gluing it to the floor, for example. Or wulvers. Ugh. Wulvers. I don't own and haven't proxied Senor Massacre. I'd take him for his smoke in CJC, but I think that'd be a waste. Much rather take Lupe in a link team, because then she has burst 2 smoke grenades!

P.S: is it possible to deploy AD troops from begin taking their orders?

Yes. You have to stick them in your deployment zone, but you don't have to keep an AD troop off the board. It's somewhat of a waste, but in some cases it might make sense, like you're playing CJC and you want to use the E/Mitter Tomcat to mine your flanks early.

Getting Icestorm is a good idea, no problems there. What I would hold off on is the Corregidor starter. I feel its name is unjustified. It's a good kit to round out your force, but IMHO NOT a good starter kit.

Definitely agree with it not being a starter box. That' s a very good way of putting it, Arachas. As for holding off on gettig the box, Icestorm + the Corregidor box isn't awful, especially if you really like the Wildcat models and would be excited about painting them.

Bottom line, like everyone has been saying, I suggest you get Icestorm and expand it as you see a need for a particular model/capability. That'll give you time to paint stuff and get used to your Infinity playstyle before effectively committing to something you might not like. You'll want to start with smaller games anyway, which Icestorm should handle well for you.

[Pierzasty]

"HOLY MOLY I can get bugs??? I'm playing Combined!"

Pay attention CB, the Exrah get you more players.

[Shadow Warrior]

Thx for every opinion I was given.
I won't answer to last two messages (the last one is too long! )
I decided to go for :

-Icestorm
-Tomcats
-Interventors

Here is why.
I like Corregidors look but I won't make a good use of a sectorial in first instance.
I like the phew miniatures of Tugunska but this sectorial is still far from being ready. Anyway I won't go for a sectorial with few models I'll have!
I don't like Bakunin but some miniatures (Prowlers above all) have my attention.
At the moment II don't feel like I can already choose among Intruder with MultiSniperRifle, Wildcat with Spitfire, Hellcat with Boarding Shotgun, Prowler with ADHL.
For these reasons I won't do a pompous purchase. I've understood a thing: that Operation Icestorm is an intro and for this reason it really lack of specialists. The only two units particular units are the Reverend Healer and the Spektr.
In particular it lacks of Hackers (and here come the Interventors... I think I can't go wrong taking best hackers in the game) and of specialists (and here come Tomcats who are appreciated by everyone).
So I will have:
Spektr (Camo/Infiltration/Mine/Forward Observer)
Mobile Brigada (Heavy Infantry)
Grenzer (Medium Infantry/Sniper)
Reverend Moira (Medium Infantry/Healer)
Alguaciles (Light Infantry and Forward Observer) ---> up to be expanded as soon as new kit comes out
Interventors (Hackers with Fastpandas)
Tomcats (Specialized AD Light Infantry/Engineer/Servant)

Do you agree?

[WiseKensai]

I won't answer to last two messages (the last one is too long! )

I can get a bit long-winded at times, it's true!

-Icestorm
-Tomcats
-Interventors

Looks good to me! Good core of units, smart ways to expand (do note that Hackers are pretty useless vs Ariadna though). I'm looking forward to reading your battle reports!

[Shadow Warrior]

Looks good to me! Good core of units, smart ways to expand (do note that Hackers are pretty useless vs Ariadna though). I'm looking forward to reading your battle reports!

Nomads excel at hacking so we can't really play stop just for Ariadnas. Anyway I've read there will be more uses for Hackers in new edition. Models are all news so I bet that CB had plans for them when they were projected!
Thx everyone

[Claudius Sol]

Don't forget you can also run the Alguaciles as Forward Observers! There has never been an explicitly Forward Observer designated model, to my knowledge.

It'd be a relatively cheap and easy way to "double duty" those Alguaciles to also be specialists besides line troops.

[McNamara]

Don't forget you can also run the Alguaciles as Forward Observers! There has never been an explicitly Forward Observer designated model, to my knowledge.

It'd be a relatively cheap and easy way to "double duty" those Alguaciles to also be specialists besides line troops.

Also Flash Pulse ARO.

[Shadow Warrior]

Don't forget you can also run the Alguaciles as Forward Observers! There has never been an explicitly Forward Observer designated model, to my knowledge.

It'd be a relatively cheap and easy way to "double duty" those Alguaciles to also be specialists besides line troops.

Also Flash Pulse ARO.

Thx for pointing out these things I hadn't noticed!
I just asked for these minis in my order.
Thanks everyone!

[Arachas]

Looks ace! I'm (re)building my Nomads in the same way: starting with Icestorm I'm working my way towards a viable 300 pts Vanilla list.

[SgtHulka]

Don't forget you can also run the Alguaciles as Forward Observers! There has never been an explicitly Forward Observer designated model, to my knowledge.

It'd be a relatively cheap and easy way to "double duty" those Alguaciles to also be specialists besides line troops.

Also Flash Pulse ARO.

And, perhaps most importantly, they come with deployable repeaters. Between them and your Interventor(s) you will make TAG's and HI cry.

EDIT: And if you don't want your Interventors to feel "useless" against Ariadna, use two FO/Deployable repeater Algualcil profiles and designate the third as having a Light Grenade Launcher. "Uh-oh, scary Wulver/Vet Kazak/Highlander Grey around the corner, we definitely don't want to take an ARO from a M12/Flamethrower/AP HMG. No problem, Alguacil 1 drop a deployable repeater, Interventor mark the scary guy with HD plus, Algualcil 3 spam with grenades until he goes away in a bloody heap!" It's order-intensive and not nearly as OP as the guided missile trick, but it's super-annoying to your opponent, which is kind of the whole point of running Nomads!