Spec-Ops Holo1 Shenanigans

[Pierzasty]

So, the gates of using Spec-Ops in normal/tournament games have been opened, and they really patch a lot of potential holes in lists (unique abilities/equipment, cheap hackers, etc.). Personally, I've found a very fun toy in the Holoprojector L1. The ability to disguise as another model is an endless font of trolling mindf*ckery.

My ideas (from the CA perspective):
- hacker minelayer "Charontid": the most expensive model, used as deterrent and misdirection. Yeah, I'm taking Batroids because I have a Mnemonica model, no hackers in sight and when it does get discovered, some people forget that the important question is "so where did 65 points disappear to?". Oh, and no one expects the Charontid to be a minelayer

- Disguising as the exact same Spec-Op..... with an entirely different skill/equipment loadout

- hiding a Chain of Command model under something that's not LT-eligible (like a Dakini or something).

[Maru]

o there is so much options
most Vanila and common are :
AD + Hacker / engener / doc - thats 8 p thats usualy go with + stars like wip and BTS for total of 12p

other "common" is Holo lvl 1 mine layer . especialy in Haqq if spec ops comes from Hawza (assasin spec op - usualy gets engener )

"the sniper" i encounterd that build to
Sniper rifle + mimetism + minelayer

the other is "Mini Tiger"
Ad + mimetism + something like + to stats or skil or 2 p weapon

[McNamara]

The Charontid trick sounds quite evil, I have to say. I am not really sure if its ok, since the size is a bit different, but the base is the same.

And hiding CoC is actually something every faction can bring to a good use, because CoC is quite expensive and it adds 2 potential Specialist to the list. I am not sure what to take for that 1 remaining point though. Specialist is redundant, and a CCW or Stun pistole just seem like something the mini will never use anyways.

[valthonis]

Limited use, but disguise as something with MSV3, so when you move into LOS of a Camo token the enemy likely will ARO shoot and reveal as otherwise they think you can shoot them with impunity. But once they reveal themselves you can shoot them anyway and thus reveal yourself in the process. Perhaps a Yaogat with Spitfire disguised as a Charontid.

[Pierzasty]

You can't disguise a Yaogat, the only CA units with holo1 are the SpecOps - Treitak and Corax.

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...that gives me an idea - can I disguise a Seed-Embryo as something? Failing that, can I hatch disguised? "Oh, it's only a normal Seed-Soldier"

[valthonis]

You can't disguise a Yaogat, the only CA units with holo1 are the SpecOps - Treitak and Corax.

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...that gives me an idea - can I disguise a Seed-Embryo as something? Failing that, can I hatch disguised? "Oh, it's only a normal Seed-Soldier"

Crap, completely ignore me. For some reason I though MSV2 was available to Spec Ops, and then I though CA and MSV2 and wrote Yaogat...

[McNamara]

...that gives me an idea - can I disguise a Seed-Embryo as something? Failing that, can I hatch disguised? "Oh, it's only a normal Seed-Soldier"

I believe there was a faq that every skill thats let you deploy the Corax differently lets you ignore the Seed-Embryo state. So a Corax with holo just works like any SpecOp with Holo too. So the moment the Holo breaks you chang it for a Seed-Soldier SpecOp.