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Spamming

PostPosted: December 18th, 2015, 3:54 pm
by Claudius Sol
Howdy, fellow residents of the 'Sphere!

Some of you may have noticed an uptick in spammer activity lately. The Data-Sphere team apologizes for the inconvenience and overall annoyance of these. We're working on improving our anti-spam measures and have increased our administrative capacity to counteract this.

Please pardon the dust and we'll try to make sure that the 'Sphere remains clean of spamming for you and yours.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 18th, 2015, 9:00 pm
by Mob of Blondes
First time I see one around this time in the day, normally they appear hours later. But it was the "same" content as always.
Have you considered some kind of text classifier?

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 20th, 2015, 4:25 am
by Mob of Blondes
Zerg rush!!! Kekekekekeke!!! If at least they included some battle reports of massive lists of hungries...

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 20th, 2015, 6:27 am
by Claudius Sol
Oh jeez. Working on this particular incursion. Apologies as I've been on the road most of the day.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 28th, 2015, 1:57 pm
by MARC C
You should put a restriction that the first 2 posts of a new member need to be approved by an admin before they are visible.
That is how we fixed the problem on our local forum.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 29th, 2015, 2:28 am
by Mob of Blondes
That still means moderators have to clean up... but if not public, maybe spammers will give up. Worth trying. Probably something from this https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... &t=2045595 (one of the things depends on "Newly Registered Users Group" which appeared in 3.0.6 as mentioned in https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtop ... #p12961708 )

Some days I wonder if this spamming in reality is a way of communicating something ("wait for the messages with 8 lines"). Or a way to force everyone to pay for extra services (what nice windows you got, looks like expensive glass...). Because otherwise it's pretty stupid spam (short lived, no direct links or even copy/paste ones as ,COM is not .COM, wrong language...).

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 29th, 2015, 6:00 pm
by Claudius Sol
Well... I've enacted... something...

We'll see how effective it is or if I even really did anything at all.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 29th, 2015, 7:42 pm
by Errhile
Seems that whatever you did, is in effect.
Let's see how that'll work.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 30th, 2015, 2:55 am
by Mob of Blondes
What was changed? Because it's not working.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 30th, 2015, 8:17 pm
by Claudius Sol
I tried forcing admin approval of "newly registered users", but wasn't sure if I got that quite right.

I suppose I hadn't, though.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 30th, 2015, 8:23 pm
by Errhile
No, but there are new user's posts that require approval.

Which cut the number of topics our Korean bots post pretty drastically. Instead of fifty, they now post two or three, notice these do not show up, and stop.
A little longer, and they may give up completely. Assuming there are human beings behind that...

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 30th, 2015, 8:38 pm
by Claudius Sol
Oh! So that's what the approval was for.

Well, at least it did something.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: December 30th, 2015, 10:19 pm
by Mob of Blondes
Well, yes, that is the idea, that posts from new accounts are reviewed before being readable by everyone, not that you enable all new accounts by hand. Then as the clearly spammish posts are not openly visible ever, spammers should give up, unless their target is being a load on admins (automatic text classifier would help with that, making it mostly a wasted electricity issue). Just make sure you nuke old accounts if they spam, those are not filtered.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 4th, 2016, 9:37 pm
by Mob of Blondes
It seems to be holding so far. Can we party now? :toot:

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 4th, 2016, 9:48 pm
by Errhile
Yep you can party. I'll keep a broom ready, in case any bot sneakes by.

We still get an occasional "kitchen" bot, but the Korean ones are apparently gone.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 5th, 2016, 12:20 am
by Mob of Blondes
If you are moderating first posts from new accounts, why would the kitcheners pass?

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 5th, 2016, 1:14 am
by Pierzasty
Just letting you know I won't have the will/energy to do mod duties properly for the next month or so, for personal grief reasons.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 5th, 2016, 3:27 pm
by Claudius Sol
Pierzasty, worry not! We'll try to pick up the slack to give you all the time you need! Sorry to hear that something is ailing you! Best wishes and know that you have friends here!


I'm glad we finally got something to work. I added an extra registration question, just in case that would be at fault.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 5th, 2016, 4:21 pm
by Pierzasty
Thanks.

Mob of Blondes wrote:If you are moderating first posts from new accounts, why would the kitcheners pass?

He probably means that the Koreans gave up while kitchenbots still generate accounts and posts (that don't pass mod approval).

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 7:14 am
by Mob of Blondes
Whatever was changed, failed. Korean spam sneaked in.

Pierzasty wrote:Just letting you know I won't have the will/energy to do mod duties properly for the next month or so, for personal grief reasons.

Take your time. :ohdear:

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 9:13 am
by Shivon
What about using some kind of the puzzle-like captcha plugin for newcomers?
Wysłane strzałą na twoje drzewo :)

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 3:31 pm
by Claudius Sol
Several common capchas have been cracked by bot spammers, anyway.

I'll try tweaking a setting.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 6:03 pm
by Shivon
Even visual - mouse only ones? Then the humans are spamming directly. :/
Wysłane strzałą na twoje drzewo :)

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 6:29 pm
by Errhile
That seems to be the case, yes.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 6:40 pm
by Shivon
If so...

Let's use 3rd party anti-spam service, such as CleanTalk:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/ ... m_protect/

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 7:35 pm
by Errhile
Even if so, I'll keep sweepin' them out untill they get bored :jihad:

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 7:59 pm
by Claudius Sol
Thank you for your service, Errhile! Makes my day a lot less stressful.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 8:52 pm
by Mob of Blondes
Shivon wrote:Let's use 3rd party anti-spam service, such as CleanTalk:
https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/ ... m_protect/

Or Sblam. Best would be local, less dependencies.

Does the forum provide a RSS feed? I think it could work as bridge to common filters.

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 9:05 pm
by Shivon
Mob of Blondes wrote:Or Sblam. Best would be local, less dependencies.


Yeah, but Sblam requires tinkering with critical phpbb scripts - one error and whole forum is down, unless administration is skilled enough to do so :)

Re: Spamming

PostPosted: January 6th, 2016, 9:55 pm
by Claudius Sol
Administration? Skilled? :?