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Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 11th, 2014, 11:16 pm
by schoon
Feedback and constructive criticism welcome...

Introduction:
This is still just a rough skeleton, and there are still gaps big enough to run a TAG through.
The intent of this system is to keep as close to that of the miniatures game as possible while adding enough detail to create a fun, action-oriented roleplaying game. Ownership of the Infinity book is required, as the background and many lists, such as weapons, are not duplicated here. Of course, having all the Infinity books gives you access to that much more fun.
During this "development phase," default back to the Infinity rulebook for anything that seems ambiguous.

Core System:
The core system of the Infinity RPG is almost exactly the same as the miniatures game, and adds more detail about the magnitude of a success or failure.
Normal Rolls:
Roll a d20 against a target number - any result equal to or less than the target is a success.
The target number will typically be an Attribute + Skill, modified by the situation as necessary.
A success has a Level of Effect equal to the die roll divided by three, rounding down.
A failure has a Level of Failure equal to the target number minus the die roll, divided by three, rounding down.
Face to Face Rolls:
Both sides roll d20s against their target numbers - the highest roll equal to or less than its target is a success.
A success has a Level of Effect equal to the successful die roll divided by three, rounding down, minus the highest unsuccessful die roll, also divided by three, rounding down.

RPG Attributes:
The Infinity RPG uses only two primary attributes to represent your character. These are exactly the same as the tabletop game:
Physical Capability (PH) includes strength, agility, and physical resilience.
Mental Capability (WIP) includes intelligence, will power, wisdom, and mental fortitude.
It uses two secondary attributes, both familiar from the miniatures game. Movement translates directly, and Wounds have been given a larger range, allowing for less granularity than OK - Unconscious - Dead.
Movement defines how far you can move in a period of time, and can be modified by equipment, encumbrance, and /or training.
Wounds represent how much damage you can take before being affected or overcome by your injuries.
  • MOV - Race base - may be modified by Masteries
  • PH - (Physical Capability) 1-20 range
  • WIP - (Mental Capability) 1-20 range
  • W - (Wounds) - initially equal to PH; may be modified by Masteries
RPG Skills:
There are eight skills in the Infinity RPG. Any untrained skill starts with a value of - 3 and can be trained up to 6.
  • Close Combat (PH) - Military Norm = +2-3
  • Ranged Combat (PH) - Military Norm = +1
  • Dodge (PH) - Includes Athletics
  • Subterfuge (PH) - Hiding, misdirection etc.
  • Knowledge (WIP) - all knowledge and intellect based tasks
  • Influence (WIP) - all charisma and personality based tasks
  • Perception (WIP) - all sense and empathy based tasks
  • Tech (WIP) - tech and computer use
RPG Masteries:
Masteries allow Skills to be used in unique or specific ways.
  • Hacking - allows Tech to be used for Hacking
  • Medic - allows Knowledge to be used for Healing
  • Engineer - allows Knowledge to be used for Demolition
  • Impersonate - allows Influence to be used for Impersonation
  • Two Weapon (CC) - allows use of two Close Combat weapons in a single attack roll
  • Two Weapon (Ranged) - allows use of two Ranged weapons in a single attack roll
  • Camouflage - allows use of Thermoptics to support Sneak
  • Leadership - allows Influence to be used to benefit others
  • Martial Arts (multiple levels) - various advantages to unarmed attacks
  • Sixth Sense (multiple levels) - various advantages against surprise
  • Power Armor (multiple levels) - allows use of powered armor systems from Medium to TAG
  • Valor (multiple levels) - allows WIP rolls to ignore injury
  • MetaChemistry (multiple levels/multiple types) - allows control of various biotechnical implants/substances
  • Pilot - allows Tech to be used for piloting
  • Science (multiple types) - allows Knowledge to be used in specific fields
  • Scout - allows Perception to be used in harsh environments
  • Superior Movement (multiple levels) - increases MOV
  • Deceit - allows Subterfuge to be used to support others
  • Diplomacy - allows Influence to be used to benefit a group or organization
  • Tough (multiple levels) - Increases W
Character Creation:
Attributes - PH and WIP both start at 6 and you have 10 points to distribute between the two. MOV starts at 4-4 for humans. W starts equal to your PH attribute. Both MOV and W can be increased by Masteries (see below).
Skills - pick 4 Skills to start at 0; all others start at -3. You have 12 points to distribute amongst all your Skills, and any Skill improvement beyond +3 costs 2 points instead of 1. Example: You decide that Dodge is one of the skills you'd like to start at 0, and want to buy it up to 4. You spend 3 of your points to get to 3 and then 2 more, for a total cost of 5 points, to get to Dodge 4.
Masteries - pick 4 Masteries. You may choose the same Mastery more than once of it has multiple levels or multiple types.
Equipment - you have ?? to spend on starting equipment.

Conflict (Turns):
When it comes time to resolve a conflict, either combat or otherwise, follow this sequence.
Roll Initiative - every character rolls a d20 against their WIP, just like the miniatures game, and the highest roll for each side is their Initiative.
The side with the highest Initiative acts first, with a number of Actions equal to the number of characters or NPCs on that side. These Actions forum your Action Pool.
Actions can be used by any character or NPC.
A single character or NPC can use multiple actions, but suffers a modifier of -3 to rolls on the second action, -6 to the third, and so on.
Any Action taken in an opponent's Line of Fire or Zone of Control allows the opportunity for a Reaction.
The side with the next highest Initiative acts second, with their Actions, and so on till all sides have acted.

Actions & Reactions:
An Action or Reaction consists of using one or more skills.
An Action may consist of one or two Short Skills (including Movement Short Skills), or one Long Skill. Taking an Action reduces your side's Action Pool by one.
The same Short Skill may not be used twice in the same Action, excluding Movement Short Skills, exactly as the Infinity rules.
A Reaction consists of one Short Skill. A Reaction does not reduce your side's Action Pool.
Your first Action or Reaction is made with no modifier to the roll. Your second Action or Reaction has a -3 modifier to the roll. Your third, -6, and so on.
When acting, you may reserve one of your Actions for future use during the Turn as a Reaction. If not taken before the end of the Turn, the opportunity is lost.
Example: Knowing that he has tripped an alarm and security could enter the room at any moment, Carlos reserves his unmodified roll for use as a Reaction, and takes a -3 modifier to his Action of Hacking a corporate terminal, as if it were his second Action.

Combat Rolls:
Combat uses the basic core mechanic to determine success and Level of Effect.
Example: Carlos and a security guard are shooting at each other, both with a target of 13. On the Face to face Roll, Carlos rolls a 9 and the guard rolls an 18. Carlos has hit with a Level of Effect of 3.
When hit, you roll a d20 and add your ARM value against a target number of the weapon's damage value plus the Level of Effect for the strike.
If the modified roll is over the target, the armor absorbs the damage. Otherwise, subtract the modified roll from the target and divide by three, rounding up. This is the damage taken.
Example (continued): Carlos adds 3 to his weapon's DAM value of 13, making a target of 16 for the guard. The guard rolls a 9 and adds his ARM of 3, for a total of 12. The difference between target and roll is 4, resulting in 2 Wounds.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 11th, 2014, 11:27 pm
by Harlekin
I see what you've done there. Thanks for sharing.

To be honest: too classic/tabletop miniature game-ish an approach for my taste, when it comes to RPGs.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 12th, 2014, 9:19 pm
by Jiron
Hi,
I would rather go for an established system. While you want it to be action oriented, I would consider some version of d20. Modern, Spycraft, Star Wars Saga, True20 or even Pathfinder are very good incarnations of the system to be modified to Fit Infinity setting. I am however reaching for my favourite FATE when running RPG in Infinity stage.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 12th, 2014, 11:40 pm
by schoon
Thank you both for the replies.

I play d20 (D&D Next to be accurate), and am an ardent supporter of FATE. I loved SW Saga (though I find the current FFG version more cinematic).

Yes, some of those systems could do this admirably. However, my goal here was to create something that a player of Infinity could immediately pick up and find both comfortable and familiar.

I'll be playtesting this with my game group and see how well it flies.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 13th, 2014, 12:37 am
by Hero of Man
I've found having only one stat for Physical and one stat for Mental in systems encourages min-maxing to an extreme.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 13th, 2014, 12:25 pm
by TanKoL
Look at Pendragon (published by Oriflam a while ago), the opposed d20 system of Infinity comes from this game
A lot of the other rules from Pebdragon can be discarded (or modified) as they are designed to work in a idealized Arthurian chivalric setting, with virtues/sins values and such

My advice, keep it simple, and work from there, don't overdo it

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 13th, 2014, 2:51 pm
by Harlekin
I just started an InFATEtity RPG on Friday. And it really was some fun time. I'm really looking forward to know about your experience with your version of InfiNity:theRPG.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 13th, 2014, 3:37 pm
by CoveredInFish
Do you mind sharing your experiences, setup, characters, aspects in play?

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 14th, 2014, 9:39 pm
by schoon
Hero of Man wrote:I've found having only one stat for Physical and one stat for Mental in systems encourages min-maxing to an extreme.

Yes, this is a very real danger, and if you don't address it in both character creation and development via experience, it6 will definitely bite you!

That said, I do believe there are ways around the issue while still applying a KISS principle.

How did your game group address the issue?

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 15th, 2014, 6:46 pm
by schoon
Playtest Report:

4 players - 2 were instructed to create well-balanced characters, and 2 were told to min-max the system.

Character creation went smoothly (there's just not that much to it). The mix was 1 soldier, 1 hacker, 1 engineer, and 1 diplomat. The diplomat pointed out (accurately IMO) that there aren't many Masteries for Influence and Subterfuge (Sneak renamed from a player suggestion). I'll correct that in the next draft.

The Min-Maxers (soldier and diplomat) were very good at their single focus, but were almost unplayable in situations outside that focus. The balanced characters (hacker and engineer) were simply more fun for people to play, and everyone agreed that while a Min-Max character is possible, it's not very enjoyable. There are enough critical skills for each attribute that it pays to have decent scores in each.

Combat went smoothly, which came as no surprise since it's so close to the miniature rules, and the penalties on taking too many Actions/Reactions really made the players consider how they did or did not want to react to NPCs. The penalties on multiple actions are pretty severe, and we may experiement with -2 instead of -3 per and see if it opens up too much abuse.

The interesting surprise was that the Action/Reaction concept worked quite well in social encounters, essentially allowing for an interruption without the advantage of knowing what they were going to say/do next.

All in all, lots of good opportunities for improvement.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 17th, 2014, 9:04 am
by Errhile
In general, I find that wargame rules do not work well with a role-playing game. By their nature, wargames concentrate on combat, and tend to work on groups of combatants.
RPGs work on single characters, and there are far more interesting things to do than just fighting.

I'm discussing an RPG with a buddy now. We decided to use Infinity as the setting (well, slightly altered, so the Aline Menace is not to be an issue - to quench your curiosity, we assumed that EI finally managed to ascend itself, and left its subject species out to dry. Which in turn allowed Human-Tohaa alliance to effectively defeat them) for a game best described as "Girls und Panzer" with obsolete TAGs* instead of old tanks, and the player being given the role of a coach of such a high-school "sports" team.
Which will mean no actual combat for the player, and all the NPC combat being in fact a simulated fire excercise.

We haven't yet touched what the mechanics will be, though I suspect we'll end using the old WEG d6 in some form, as it is simple and easy to tinker with (I'd love to use Interlock in some variant, but well, I guess it would be teaching new tricks to an old dog ;)).

* Obsolete as in "piloted", since the future went on and it is years after the EI war, all the real military forces have switched to Remote Presence TAGs quite a while ago.

Re: Infinity RPG

PostPosted: October 24th, 2014, 6:04 pm
by schoon
OP modified slightly - additions and clarifications based upon playtesting.

However, I'm not going to be sinking any serious time into this till N3 comes out, just to make sure I'm basing everything on the latest rules.